Monday, October 24, 2005

Crimson Ties - what a coincidence

So, yet again Bush chooses a Harvard grad with strong academic credentials.
Who also happened to be at Harvard when Bush was. Bush's MBA IIRC was '75, Bernanke got his BA in '75 and Roberts time at Harvard straddled these years.
Clearly a very good cohort for Harvard students...
Bernanke bio

That's the liberal academia for you. I wonder if the usual suspects counted Bernanke as a democrat on the Princeton faculty, in evaluating their weighting of the liberal bias in academia.


Blogger Wolfgang said...

I thought Gush went to Yale ?

11:42 PM  
Blogger Wolfgang said...

stupid typo ...

I thought Bush went to Yale ?

11:42 PM  
Blogger Steinn said...

Freudian typo!

Yale for undergrad, Harvard for MBA.

12:00 AM  
Blogger Adam Solomon said...

Well, if I end up at Harvard for undergrad or graduate, it's good to know that a Republican president in the future may just nominate me to the Supreme Court. I wonder if law degrees and astro Ph.Ds are both just as good...

8:24 PM  
Blogger Steinn said...

Nah, an astro PhD might get you Presidential Science Advisor, or head of DoE, but only if you go to the right clubs and drink with the right people.
Statistically your odds are better at Yale though.

Probably optimise by doing Yale undergrad and Harvard postgrad...

9:08 PM  
Blogger Adam Solomon said...

Really now? How is Yale better? And are we talking about in terms of getting real jobs in the field now, or about getting jobs from the president? ;)

Actually, while we're on the subject, what schools would you recommend for undergrad, if astro Ph.D. is the goal?

10:41 PM  
Blogger Steinn said...

Getting jobs from the President, of course. Recent history, Yale produces Presidents and political advisors; Harvard produces media people, judges and non-political advisors.

For undergrad: depends on your personality, mathematical geekiness and some intangibles. At some level a "good enough" university is what you make of it; some will actively push you and encourage you, some are benignly negligent, some try to test you to destruction and some nurture you.
Purely based on small sample statistics, the universities that produce lots of undergrads who do astro PhDs are Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Caltech, PSU, Texas (Austin), U Arizona, Berkeley and a couple of the liberal art places like Reed, Swarthmore, Oberlin and Wesleyan. This is not an exclusive list, and there are ~ 50 more universities that regularly produce undergrads who go on to astro PhDs. Beyond that list, there are universities that occasionally produces undergrads going on to astro PhDs and those that never do (yet).

2:09 PM  
Blogger Kayhan Gultekin said...

This may have been cronyism, but it seems unlikely. Most grad students hate undergrads at the same institution.

10:37 AM  
Blogger Steinn said...

Don't think it was cronyism, but MBA students are not "grads" as we think of them, and any interaction is more likely to have been social; either some young republican soc, or a financial and social club.
It is noticeable that appointments tend to cluster where there was some personal overlap, although there is of course observer bias on this and I have not statistically sampled the appointees origins...
But theoretically I could be onto something!

1:51 PM  

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